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Marine Corps leader responds to ‘Don’t Ask’ repeal questions

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Marine Corps Commandant Gen. James Conway (photo courtesy marines.mil)

Marine Corps Commandant Gen. James Conway responded on Tuesday to media questions repealing “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” and offered mixed responses.

On one hand, Conway said the Marine Corps will “lead” in implementing repeal should the law change, but also said an “overwhelming number” of Marines wouldn’t want to room with someone who’s openly gay.

Conway’s remarks are notable because he’s reportedly the service chief who had most strongly come out against repeal of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” in private discussions.

In a statement, Aaron Belkin, director of the Palm Center, a think tank on gays in the military at the University of California, Santa Barbara, praised Conway for saying the Marine Corps would lead in the implementation of repeal.

ā€œCommandant Conwayā€™s words are powerful,”Ā Belkin said.Ā “He has not been supportive of this change but he has now made clear that once the law is changed, the Marine Corps will set the pace for implementation of open service without delay.ā€

The transcript of his remarks on “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” is below:

Q:Ā The Marine Corps in the next few years is going to be facing some big changes on two fronts.Ā  One would be the discussion about the role that the Marines play in future warfare, and then also the changes to personnel policy under — if “Donā€™t Ask, Donā€™t Tell” is lifted.Ā  So what advice would you like to leave your successors, considering that these changes will probably take place long after youā€™re gone?Ā  What would you like to say on those two fronts?

A:Ā In terms of “Donā€™t Ask, Donā€™t Tell,” you know, we will obey the law.Ā  Weā€™re anxious to see that the survey indicates when itā€™s made public towards the end of the year.Ā But I caution our Marines and our Marine leadership:Ā  If the law changes we pride our Corps in leading the services in many, many things, and weā€™re going to have to lead in this too.Ā  There will be a hundred issues out there that we have to solve, if the law changes, in terms of how we do business, and we cannot be seen as dragging our feet or some way delaying implementation.Ā  Weā€™ve got a war to fight. We need to, if the law changes, implement and get on with it.

Q:Ā General, I wanted to pick up on “Donā€™t Ask, Donā€™t Tell.” As you know, the Senateā€™s going to pick it up next month as part of the authorization bill.Ā  And youā€™ve told the Hill that you think the current policy works and that you would never ask Marines to room with a homosexual if we can avoid it.Ā  Youā€™ve been followed by other Marine generals — Jack Sheehan, Peter Pace, Carl Mundy — in opposing a change in the policy.

And also, if you look at the polls done by Military Times, the Marines seem to oppose any change in policy by a fairly significant margin.

And I want you to focus on:Ā  What is it about the Marines that they — they oppose this change in policy, repealing “donā€™t ask, donā€™t tell?” Youā€™ve been in the Corps for over forty years.Ā  You get out there and talk to Marines.Ā  What is it that the Marines oppose about this — more so than the other services?

A:Ā Well, thatā€™s a tough question to answer, Tom, because Iā€™m not as familiar with the other services as I am my own Corps.Ā  So any comparison or contrast is difficult.

But we recruit a certain type of young American, pretty macho guy or gal, that is willing to go fight and perhaps die for their country. Thatā€™s about the only difference that I see between the other services.Ā  I mean, they recruit from a great strain of young Americans as well.Ā  They all come from the same areas and that type of thing.

So I can only think that, as we look at our mission, how we are forced to live in close proximity aboard ship, in the field for long periods of time and that type of thing, that the average Marine out there, and by the way, my own surveys indicate that itā€™s not age dependent, itā€™s not rank dependent, itā€™s not where youā€™re from; itā€™s, as you highlight, pretty uniformly not endorsed as the ideal way ahead.Ā  But I just think all those things have impact on the Marines. And weā€™d just assume not see it change.Ā  But again, we will follow the law, whatever the law prescribes.

Q: As far as living in tight quarters, is that the issue you hear mostly when you talk to Marines out in the field?

A:Ā Well, see, we, unlike the other services, we have consciously, for decades now, billeted by twos.Ā  So if the law changes, we start out with a problem in terms of how to address that. And Iā€™ve spoken publicly some about that in the past.

You know, weā€™ll deal with it.Ā  I do not believe thereā€™s money out there to build another requirement for BEQs, to allow every Marine to have a room by his or herself.Ā  So how we deal with the billeting problem is going to one of that myriad of issues that weā€™ll have to face.

Q: How would you deal with it?

A: I donā€™t know.Ā I donā€™t know.

We sometimes ask Marines, you know, what is — what is their preference.Ā  And I can tell you that an overwhelming majority would like not to be roomed with a person who is openly homosexual.

Some do not object and perhaps — you know, perhaps a voluntary basis might be the best way to start, without violating anybodyā€™s sense of moral concern or perception on the part of their mates.

I donā€™t know.Ā Weā€™re not there yet.Ā And itā€™s one of those hypotheticals at this point that we have to consider but we wonā€™t have to deal with until the law changes, if it does.

Q: I want to take you back to “Donā€™t Ask, Donā€™t Tell.”Ā  You said something that Iā€™d like to ask you what you meant, with precision.Ā  You talked about — when you said that, you know, some Marines are skeptical of all this, you talked about the — and your words were ā€˜the moral perception that Marines have of people serving in the Marine Corps who are openly gay.ā€™Ā  What do you mean by moral perception?

A:Ā  Barbara, we have some people that are very religious.Ā  And I think in some instances — I couldnā€™t begin to give you a percentage, but I think in some instances we will have people that say that homosexuality is wrong, and they simply do not want to room with a person of that persuasion because it would go against their religious beliefs.Ā  So thatā€™s my belief about some percentage of Marines in our Corps.

Q: And what do you — if that is the case, and the law changes, as a senior commander, then — itā€™s a volunteer force. Should those people leave?

Should accommodations be made?Ā  What do you — what do you do about that?

A:Ā  Yeah.Ā  Well, I think, as a commander, you try to satisfy the requirements of all your Marines.Ā  And if the law changes and we have homosexual Marines, weā€™ll be as concerned about their rights, their privileges, their morale as we will Marines who feel differently about that whole paradigm.

So commanders — local commanders will be required to assist us in making sure that every Marine is provided for and is focused on the fight at hand.

[h/t] advocate.com

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HRC slams White House over position opposing gender affirming surgeries for minors

ā€˜Biden administration is flat wrong on thisā€™

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Human Rights Campaign President Kelley Robinson (Washington Blade photo by Michael Key)

Human Rights Campaign President Kelley Robinson issued a strong rebuke on Tuesday of the Biden-Harris administration’s position opposing gender affirming surgeries for minors.

The New York Times reported on June 28 that the White House, which broadly supports making medical interventions available for transgender youth, had expressed opposition to surgeries for patients under 18, having previously declined to take a specific position on the question.

ā€œHealth care decisions for young people belong between a patient, their family, and their health care provider. Trans youth are no exception,” Robinson responded. 

ā€œThe Biden administration is flat wrong on this. Itā€™s wrong on the science and wrong on the substance. Itā€™s also inconsistent with other steps the administration has taken to support transgender youth. The Biden administration, and every elected official, need to leave these decisions to families, doctors and patientsā€”where they belong,” she added. “Although transgender young people make up an extremely small percentage of youth in this country, the care they receive is based on decades of clinical research and is backed by every major medical association in the U.S. representing over 1.3 million doctors.”

Robinson said the “administration has committed to fight any ban on healthcare for transgender youth and must continue this without hesitationā€”the entire community is watching.” 

ā€œNo parent should ever be put in the position where they and their doctor agree on one course of action, supported by the overwhelming majority of medical experts, but the government forbids it,ā€ she added.

HRC is a prominent backer of Biden’s 2024 reelection campaign, having pledged $15 million to support efforts in six battleground states. The organization has a strong relationship with the White House, with the president and first lady headlining last year’s National Dinner.

A White House spokesperson declined to respond to Robinson’s statement.

Campaign for Southern Equality President Allison Scott also issued a statement.

ā€œThis is a cowardly statement from an administration that promised to support transgender people. It is a troubling concession to the right-wing assault on transgender Americans, falling for their false narratives about surgical care and betraying a commitment to equality and trust in the medical community,ā€ said Scott.

ā€œLetā€™s be very, very clear: Government has no business inserting itself into private medical decisions that should be exclusively between patients, their providers, and the patientsā€™ parent or guardian,” Scott added.

“It is dangerous to begin endorsing categorical bans or limits on healthcare, and there is no justification for restricting transgender youthā€™s access to the very same care that many cisgender youth receive every year ā€” thatā€™s literally the definition of discrimination,” Scott concluded. “We demand the Biden administration retract this thoughtless statement and work to undo its damage.ā€ 

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Members of Congress introduce resolution to condemn Uganda’s Anti-Homosexuality Act

U.S. Reps. Mark Takano (D-Calif.) and Joyce Beatty spearheaded condemnation

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U.S. Rep. Mark Takano (D-Calif.) (Washington Blade photo by Michael Key)

More than 20 members of Congress on Thursday introduced a resolution that condemns Uganda’s Anti-Homosexuality Act.

Gay California Congressman Mark Takano and U.S. Rep. Joyce Beatty (D-Ohio) spearheaded the resolution that U.S. Reps. Becca Balint (D-Vt.), Lloyd Doggett (D-Texas), Adriano Espaillat (D-N.Y.), Robert Garcia (D-Calif.), Sylvia Garcia (D-Texas), Josh Gottheimer (D-N.J.), RaĆŗl Grijalva (D-Ariz.), Pramila Jayapal (D-Wash.), Hank Johnson (D-Ga.), Gwen Moore (D-Wis.), Seth Moulton (D-Mass.), Jerry Nadler (D-N.Y.), Eleanor Holmes Norton (D-D.C.), Mark Pocan (D-Wash.), Delia Ramirez (D-Ill), Linda SĆ”nchez (D-Calif.), Jan Schakowsky (D-Ill.), Brad Sherman (D-Calif.), Rashida Tlaib (D-Mich.), Ritchie Torres (D-N.Y.), and Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.) co-sponsored.

“The House of Representatives condemns the government of Ugandaā€™s criminalization and draconian punishments regarding consensual same-sex sexual conduct and so-called ā€˜’promotion of homosexuality,ā€™” reads the resolution.

The resolution, among other things, also calls upon the Ugandan government to repeal the law.

ā€œIt is difficult to overstate the gross inhumanity of Ugandaā€™s Anti-Homosexuality Act,ā€ said Takano in a press release.

President Yoweri Museveni in May 2023 signed the law, which contains a death penalty provision for ā€œaggravated homosexuality.ā€

The U.S. subsequently imposed visa restrictions on Ugandan officials and removed the country from a program that allows sub-Saharan African countries to trade duty-free with the U.S. The World Bank Group also announced the suspension of new loans to Uganda.

The Ugandan Constitutional Court in April refused to ā€œnullify the Anti-Homosexuality Act in its totality.ā€ A group of Ugandan LGBTQ activists appealed the ruling.

ā€œInstead of focusing on rooting out corruption or ending extrajudicial killings, the Ugandan Parliament, president, and Constitutional Court have chosen to mark LGBTQ+ Ugandans as less than human,” said Takano. “Congress must not be silent in the face of such systematic, state-sponsored discrimination.”

“To all those LGBTQ+ people and your allies in Uganda ā€” we see you,” added the California Democrat. “We and the Biden administration will not allow this terrible violation of basic dignity to go unchallenged.ā€ 

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LGBTQ issues absent from Trump-Biden debate

Advocacy groups hoped candidates would address queer topics

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Former President Donald Trump and President Joe Biden debate on CNN on Jun 27, 2024. (Screen captures via CNN)

At their televised debate in Atlanta on June 27, President Joe Biden and former President Donald Trump traded barbs on issues from abortion and election integrity to immigration and foreign policy. The 81 and 78-year-old candidates even argued over who is a better golfer.

Absent from the discussion, however, were matters of LGBTQ rights that have animated national politics in this election cycle with the presumptive Republican nominee promising to weaponize the federal government against queer and trans Americans as the president pledges to build on his record of expanding their freedoms and protections.

CNN hosted Thursday’s debate, with the network’s anchors Dana Bash and Jake Tapper moderating. ABC News will run the second debate scheduled for September 10.

The president’s performance was widely criticized as halting and shaky, with White House reporter Peter Baker of The New York Times writing that Democratic Party leaders are calling for him to be replaced at the top of the ticket.

Also setting the tone early into the program was Trump’s repetition of the lie that Democrats are so “radical” on matters of abortion that they “will take the life of a child in the eighth month, the ninth month, and even after birth.”

Biden, meanwhile, laid the blame at his opponent’s feet for appointing three U.S. Supreme Court justices during his term in office who overturned Roe v. Wade’s 51-year-old constitutional protections for abortion.

He also referenced the fallout from that ruling and the extreme restrictions passed by conservative legislators in its wake, arguing that Trump would not veto a federal abortion ban if Republican majorities in Congress were to pass one.

Trump also repeated falsehoods about the 2020 presidential election.

“Will you pledge tonight that once all legal challenges have been exhausted, that you will accept the results of this election,” Bash asked him, “regardless of who wins, and you will say right now that political violence in any form is unacceptable?”

The Republican frontrunner first responded by denying he was responsible for his supporters’ violent ransacking of the U.S. Capitol Building on Jan. 6 2021.

After the CNN anchor pressed him twice to answer the first part of her question, Trump said, “if it’s a fair and legal and good election, absolutely” but “the fraud and everything else was ridiculous.”

“You appealed and appealed to courts all across the country,” Biden responded. “Not one single court in America said any of your claims had any merit, state or local, none. But you continue to provoke this lie about somehow, there’s all this misrepresentation, all this stealing ā€” there is no evidence of that at all.”

The president continued, “And I tell you what, I doubt whether you’ll accept it, because you’re such a whiner.”

Advocacy groups hoped the debate would address LGBTQ issues

Leading up to the debate, advocacy groups urged the candidates to defend their records on and policy proposals concerning LGBTQ rights, with some arguing the discussion would advantage President Joe Biden’s campaign, as reported by The Hill’s Brooke Migdon.

As the community celebrated Pride this month, the Biden-Harris 2024 team made significant investments in paid media and the Out for Biden national organizing effort to court LGBTQ voters, who are expected to comprise a larger share of the electorate than ever before.

ā€œThis will be an enormous slight to our community if LGBTQ questions are not asked during this debate,ā€ GLAAD President Sarah Kate Ellis said. ā€œOur community is deeply affected by where these candidates stand.ā€Ā 

ā€œThe safety and freedom of LGBTQ people depends on your engagement with the candidates and ability to inform voters about their records and proposals,ā€ she said.

Annise Parker, the outgoing president and CEO of the LGBTQ+ Victory Fund, said ā€œI certainly hope that the moderators bring up the LGBTQ community and LGBTQ issues, because there is a stark contrast between the two candidates.”

ā€œI hope we see a substantive conversation on the records of these two men for the fight for a more equal society,ā€ said Brandon Wolf, national press secretary at the Human Rights Campaign.

ā€œA vast majority of people in this country support an America that treats people with dignity and respect; they support an America that prevents people from experiencing discrimination and harm simply because of who they are,ā€ he said.

ā€œThat is where the American people largely are, and I hope we get an opportunity on that stage to see the contrast between these two candidates.ā€Ā 

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