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Sisters in spirit
Gospel music vets Knapp, Becker unite for Christmas album, tour
Margaret Becker and Jennifer Knapp
āThe Hymns of Christmas Tourā
Monday, 7:30 p.m.
The Birchmere
3701 Mount Vernon Ave.
Alexandria, VA
$25
Any touring musician will tell you life on the road ā even when you can afford first class all the way ā can get to you after years of going through the endless recording/promoting/touring/repeat cycle.
Two gospel music veterans who, at different times and to varying degrees, each spent years out of the limelight, are back with a wildly unexpected joint project ā an album called āThe Hymns of Christmas.ā On it, Margaret Becker and Jennifer Knapp trade leads and harmonies and enjoy what they say is great musical repartee.Ā They’re half-way through a 14-date mini-tour to support it and play the Birchmere in Alexandria, Va., Monday night.
Knapp, 38, released her first major label album to the Christian market in 1998 and worked solidly touring and recording through 2002 at which time she went on a long hiatus, moved to Australia and pretty much gave up any thoughts of continuing her career. She came out as a lesbian in April 2010 and released a comeback album called āLetting Go.ā She maintains her Christian faith but says, though she doesnāt claim to be a theologian, she believes many of the scriptures traditionally used to condemn gays have been misunderstood and misinterpreted.
Becker, 53, was practically peerless among Christian music women rockers in her heyday. She released her first album in 1987 and though she recorded plenty of ballads and exhibited tremendous songwriting prowess, Becker always rocked harder than her contemporaries like Amy Grant or Twila Paris. Becker enjoyed a great run throughout the late ā80s and ā90s but slowed down tremendously by the ā00s. Her new effort with Knapp is her first new album since 2007ās āAir.ā
During a lunch break last week between back-to-back shows in Canton, Ohio and Indianapolis, Knapp fields a bevy of questions on how she has settled into being an openly gay singer, the collaboration with Becker and how it came about and what fans can expect from their show next week at the Birchmere.
Itās a highly non-glam tour and Knapp makes no attempt to hide it. Theyāre sharing a van and Becker is in line getting lunch at a Subway while Knapp answers Blade questions. Though the interview is with Knapp, Becker quickly follows up with e-mail inquiries later in the day.
āItās just gonna be Margaret and I with a couple of acoustic guitars, but donāt let that fool you,ā Knapp says. āItās one of the most fun times Iāve ever had and itās not gonna be some pared down girly acoustic thing. Itās gonna be a really good, full-voiced night. It shocks me when I look over at her and see how much she gives each night.ā
Though not as active as she formerly was, Becker still speaks at religious womenās events and participates in hymn recording projects. Her audience is very much part of the Nashville-based contemporary Christian industry, the ranks of which both she and Knapp came through.
The two met in about 2000 when they both participated in a pair of multiple-artist projects and became friends. Knapp, who long has admired Becker, says it took no arm-twisting to convince Becker to record and tour with her, though many gospel fans turned their back on Knapp.
āFortunately itās not really an issue weāve had,ā Knapp says. āTonightās going to be a prime example. Weāre playing at a United Methodist church in Indianapolis. It will be a lovely Christmas evening and the last thing weāll be talking about is our sexual orientation. Itās a huge step for that church to host somebody like me and just proceed as if itās business as usual but I think weāre seeing that more and more in terms of the public consciousness. I think we saw that in this last election. Itās great that people can take that and not draw this unusual amount of attention to it. Thatās really the extraordinary part of it.ā
Becker, in an e-mail exchange, says sheās not finding fans and those coming to the shows to be inferring anything about her life or ministry by her collaboration with Knapp.
āThe audiences who are supporting this are music lovers who recognize when the work is symbiotic and complementary,ā Becker says. āWeāve played this tour to those people, groups that I consider to be overlapping supporters from both of our bases. They are respectful and come for the music and spirit or the art of the material. I donāt think they give it much more thought than that and to me, thatās perfect. Thatās how it should be.ā
For the record, Becker declines to comment on her own sexual orientation. “My personal life is private and I’m very happy,” she wrote in an e-mail via her publicist. “I am very supportive of Jennifer and this musical partnership we’ve created and look forward to sharing it with her supporters and mine.”
The album features mostly acoustic arrangements of traditional church classes like āHark the Herald Angels Sing,ā āThe First Noel,ā āWhat Child is This,ā āSilent Nightā and more. Neither artist had recorded a Christmas album before and now that both are again living in the Nashville area, they decided this summer to go ahead and make it happen.
āWe finally said, āLetās just do it, letās just get it done,āā Knapp says. āThere was no pressure to write anything new, theyāre all hymns so thereās a great wealth of material there and lots of opportunities for us to harmonize. We just decided to put our money where our mouth was and go ahead and do it.ā
Becker concurs.
āOne night we just got serious and realized weād both put off making a Christmas record over the course of our careers, at least the kind that was indigenous to us. Thatās where the idea came from. Making music with a dear friend who is also an awesome talent was the catalyst for me. It was fun top to bottom.ā
The indie album was recorded on a shoestring with, Knapp says, basically āone mic and one computer.ā She says the advance of user-friendly recording software made it possible to do the album without spending thousands. They did some spring rehearsing, hit the studio in July (when most Christmas albums are recorded) and did most of the work in a four-week span. The mixing and packaging came soon after and the project wrapped in October.
āIt did feel a little weird at first singing all these Christmas songs while youāre just dripping in sweat in the middle of the hot Tennessee summer,ā she says. āSo at the beginning, yeah, it took a little time to wrap my head around a Christmas project but pretty quickly it really did start to feel like its own project. It didnāt feel kitschy or Christmasy really to me. We approached it in a very honest sense and didnāt want to make it kitschy. Maybe itās just because I was involved with it but I really was thinking, āWow, I could listen to this any time of the year.āā
The first half of the show is basically the new album. In the second half, the two revisit their hits, trade harmonies on each otherās songs and keep it loose enough that the set list varies from show to show.
āWeāve sort of got this telepathy thing going on for the last two or three shows,ā Knapp says. āWeāll just kind of riff on a theme for a bit and itās great knowing you donāt have to play it exactly the same way every night or carry the full weight of the evening by yourself.ā
Knapp ends the conversation weighing in on a blaze of topics. On whether or not Christians in the U.S. are becoming less rigid on homosexuality, Knapp says there āwill always be people who arenāt going to change their minds no matter what.ā She says she finds encouragement in the Mainline Protestant denominations that are making gay-friendly strides more and more as time progresses.
Why then, one wonders, have those kinds of churches not spawned their own cottage industry of gospel music the way the evangelical/Bible Belt world did starting with āJesus musicā in the late ā60s?
āItās a question Iāve been asking myself for years,ā Knapp says. āThere are thousands of singers who write about their faith from very different viewpoints but I really think a lot of it has to do with the circumstances in that world where the people who run the industry really see themselves as the gatekeepers and a great emphasis is placed on how the individual artist acts and who they hang out with and how you think about your faith. Weāve seen a lot of strong artists pulled from shelves because theyāve gotten divorced or had an alcohol problem or whatever. As a songwriter you really have to keep writing true and honest stories. If youāre only writing music for Christians, by Christians to make more Christians, you kind of lose out.ā
Lee Tucker, a long-time gay gospel music fan and Alexandria, Va., resident, says Knapp deserves enormous credit for being brave enough to come out, despite what it might cost her in lost airplay, space at Christian retail and fans.
āI think itās amazing she took the brave jump to come out,ā Tucker says. āIt was a big jump for Chely Wright too because a lot of country music is in the Midwest and in the Bible Belt, but itās even more of a leap for Jennifer because it will totally change her market. If you went into a Christian bookstore right now, you wouldnāt find any of her stuff on the shelves at all.ā
For LGBT teens who might be coming up in evangelical households, Knapp says hang in there and remember there are faith-based Christian groups out there that affirm gays.
āAbsolutely get online, there are so many people out there waiting with open arms,ā she says. āThe Christian Network, Believe Out Loud, Soulforce, Inside Out Faith ā there are a lot of people out there offering very compassionate, faith-based support. Itās not longer just churches being the bad guys here. A lot of them are starting to get the message.ā
They ran like the wind, broke the tape at the finish line, and clutched their chest with the broadest smile on their face. Then Nikki Hiltz collapsed to the track, having set a new record in the 1,500-meter race at the U.S. Olympic track and field trials and earned a spot on Team USA.Ā
As the realization sank in that they would be representing the U.S. in Paris as an out transgender nonbinary athlete, what the Paris-bound Olympian did next was to scribble a message of LGBTQ representation on the last day of Pride Month, writing with a red marker upon the glass of the camera that records each athleteās signature on a whiteboard:
āI ā¤ļø the gays,ā they wrote, and above it, they signed their first name.
Hiltz, 29, finished the race on Sunday at the University of Oregonās Hayward Field in first-place with a final time of 3:55:33, breaking third-place finisher Elle St. Pierreās 2021 record of 3:58:03.
Hiltz credited St. Pierre, the top-finishing American and third-place finisher in the womenās 1,500 at the Tokyo Olympics, with motivated them and the other competitors to race faster. With a first lap time of 61 seconds, St. Pierre led the race for the majority of its duration. St. Pierre and Emily Mackay, who placed second, also both earned spots in the Paris Olympics.
āIf someone would have told me this morning that 3:56 doesnāt make the team, I donāt want to know that. Iām just in the race to run it and race it and thatās what I did,ā Hiltz said after the race. The Santa Cruz native who came out in 2021 as trans nonbinary told NBC Sports that the accomplishment is ābigger than just me.ā
āI wanted to run this for my community,ā Hiltz said, āAll of the LGBT folks, yeah, you guys brought me home that last hundred. I could just feel the love and support.ā
On Monday, Hiltz reflected on the race and how they became an Olympian in a post on Instagram.
āWoke up an Olympian. š„¹ Yesterday afternoon in Eugene Oregon a childhood dream of mine came true. Iām not sure when this will fully sink in ā¦ All I know is today Iām waking up just so grateful for my people, overwhelmed by all the love and support, and filled with joy that I get to race people I deeply love and respect around a track for a living. šā
Hiltz also shared a photo with their girlfriend, runner Emma Gee, and captioned it: āRemember in Inside Out 2 when Joy says āmaybe this is what happens when you grow up ā¦ you feel less joyā? Yeah I actually have no idea what sheās talking about. ššš¤ š¦ š„š«š·ā
They shared photos in their new Team USA garb, too.
While they will be the first out trans nonbinary member of the U.S. track and field team, Hiltz will not be the first nonbinary Olympian. That honor goes to Quinn, who played soccer for Canada in Tokyo and holds the record as the only nonbinary athlete to have won a gold medal. So far.
Many of the posts by Hiltz, Team USA and others have been trolled by bigots and ignoramuses who have mistaken them for a trans woman who was presumed to be male at birth and transitioned genders. Right-wing outlets and anti-trans activist Riley Gaines have commented on their victory and questioned their gender identity and decision to compete against cisgender women.
A female who identifies as trans earned a spot on the U.S. women’s Olympic team.
I wonder why she didn’t try out for the men’s team. It’s almost as if she understands she would never be able to compete or succeed at same level against the men.
Tellinghttps://t.co/M5Lj9G0aEi
ā Riley Gaines (@Riley_Gaines_) July 2, 2024
But in the spirit of the late Marsha P. Johnson, who famously said the āPā stood for āpay no mindā to the haters, Hiltz shared a photo of a handwritten motivational note to themself, which ends: āI saw a quote online the other week that said, ārespect everybody, fear nobody,ā and thatās exactly how Iām going to approach this final. I can do this.āĀ
And they did.Ā
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Rehobothās Purple Parrot still soaring after 25 years
Owners Hugh Fuller and Troy Roberts reflect on keys to their success
Two buildings, one romance, and 25 years later, the Purple Parrot is busy as ever.
If the tropical purple paint covering the outside with rainbow flags and walls covered with love notes, affirmations, and drunk wishes scribbled on dollar bills don’t indicate it already, the Purple Parrot is an institution in Rehoboth. The gay-owned and operated fixture is celebrating its 25th anniversary this year.Ā
The Blade sat down with owners Hugh Fuller and Troy Roberts of the Rehoboth establishment to discuss the past 25 years and plans for the future.Ā
Fuller and Roberts, both gay, have been working together since before the Parrot was even an idea. Fuller was a co-owner of the Iguana, another restaurant and bar in the town. Ā
āI was in the Iguana first with another business partner,ā Fuller said. āI was going to get out and move up to Pennsylvania with him [Roberts]. He decided that he was going to come down and said, āWell, what if I go in with you at the Iguana and we do it together?ā And I was like, āAlright,ā so we did, and it just snowballed from there. We were always in the restaurant business together from the beginning.āĀ
āYeah, that was really luck, too,ā Roberts began. āBecause-ā
āBecause Grindr wasnāt around then!ā Fuller interjected, laughing as Roberts began to roll his eyes and smile.Ā
āI had a small place up in York,ā Roberts continued. āSelling that kind of gave us some money to buy the other guy out. We just had friends supporting us and helping us along the way and it just kind of worked.āĀ
āKind of workedā would be an understatement. The pair moved on from the Iguana and opened the Parrot. Then, after opening the Parrot, they decided to shift locations to a larger location down the street to accommodate the growing demand. Then in 2010, the Parrot expanded again, adding the land behind the Rehoboth Avenue location, which provided an additional 950 square feet as well as giving patrons access to Wilmington Avenue.
The bar and restaurant, which serves American cuisine with a beach flair, has always focused on being a welcoming space to all regardless of sexuality, gender, race, nationality, or identity. This, the duo explains, is one of the reasons why the restaurant has had such a lasting impact on the Rehoboth restaurant and gay communities.Ā
āBack in the ā90s when we first opened up, the amount of straight crossdressers that would come were like, āOh, are we allowed to come in? Are we welcomed into a place like that?ā And we were like āEverybody that walks on this planet is welcome here!āā Fuller said. āThose are the kinds of things, you know, where people just felt comfortable. They would get stared at out on the street, but inside they would walk around and feel like they were in their own skin. It was just really cool to see.ā
The feeling of acceptance has been a crucial part of the Parrotās success.
āI got an email a couple of days ago ā probably two weeks ago about a woman bringing her daughter down,ā Roberts said. āShe’s 16 and was bullied through school ā hard times, depression, tried to harm herself a couple of times. It was just really sweet that she reached out and she’s like, āMy daughter was a completely different person when I brought her into your bar. Everybody treated her nice ā the bartenders, the waitstaff, I mean, everybody was friendly. She just doesn’t experience that often being an out 16-year-old lesbian. We just can’t even thank you enough.ā It’s those kinds of things that we get often.ā
ā[The mother] mainly wrote it because we put the Pride flag on the Parrotās Facebook wall,ā Fuller added.
The colorful lights, disco balls, and staggering number of dollar bills stapled to the walls highlight that the Rehoboth community has embraced the Parrot. Itās not uncommon to see a group of gay patrons sitting at the bar in bathing suits sipping on orange crushes and talking about their day at Poodle Beach while a bachelorette party belts out Lady Gaga on karaoke night in the room next door. That is the vibe Fuller and Roberts have curated ā a fun and friendly tropical oasis in the middle of Rehoboth Avenue.
A crucial element of this curated vibe, the pair point out, is treating employees and guests with respect. When asked what they have learned that helped them be so successful over the past 25 years, Fuller and Roberts said the same thing.
āPatience, organization, and treating people well,ā Roberts said.ā I think that’s probably one of the bigger of the three ā you treat them well and they treat you well. I think it’s just a mutual respect.ā
āIt took me about 30 years to learn that it’s not just all about work,ā Fuller said. āI used to bust my butt in there all the time and the focus was [on] the restaurant. I know [Roberts] said patience, I would say mine was being patient too because I learned going in that it’s easier to deal with your employees without shouting at them. It took me a little while to get through that.ā
He added that compensating staff fairly was also one of their keys to success.Ā
āBefore we take a nickel out of our business, we put $1 back into our employeesā pockets,ā Fuller said. We want the business to survive and it has been incredible.ā
Fuller added that this sentiment, of having patience and treating everyone with respect, goes both ways ā it applies to the Parrotās patrons as well.
āIf you leave the Parrot angry, it’s your own decision,ā Fuller explained. āIf we don’t make you happy there, it’s because you’re choosing not to be happy. We will go out of our way to correct anything and everything that we can. So if you leave [unhappy], it’s not because we couldn’t do it. It’s because you didn’t want us to.ā
The two discussed their history together ā anyone who has them interact can see their spirited energy and appreciation for each other.
āTroy and I used to be a couple when we first opened, and we were together for about 10 years,ā Fuller said. āAnd then we kind of went our separate ways, but the restaurant kept us in very close contact. Sometimes I think we’re probably closer than most couples are because of the way that the restaurant has us tied together.ā
āEven during the worst of it, we never stopped communicating on a daily basis,ā Roberts added. āObviously, you can tell by his personality why that all went south,ā he said laughing.
āWell, you can tell by the way that he looks why it went south.ā Fuller jabbed back, also laughing.
āHey!ā Roberts replied.
āI wasn’t gonna continue dating my grandfather!ā Fuller joked.
Despite the end of their romantic relationship, there was still clear evidence of perpetual good energy between the business partners. The two then started to reminisce about the past 25 years and the struggles and successes they overcame to reach this milestone.
The pair mentioned the two biggest struggles they have faced in the past quarter century. One was when Rehoboth Avenue was dug up for the Streetscape improvement project, and the second was the 2008 recession.Ā
āWe were refinancing our houses several times to keep it afloat there for a little while,ā Fuller said.
āBut hey, we got nice sidewalks now!ā Roberts added. āSo that’s good.ā
Itās not just the customers who grew up with the Parrot; so did the staff.
āI mean one of the kids who bussed for us is now our dentist,ā Fuller said.
āOne of the busboys from the Iguana days, he’s our dentist now,ā Roberts explained. āThey actually started dating in high school while working together at the Iguana. One of them followed us to the Parrot and her daughter just worked for us two summers ago as a host. He’s our dentist, and they’re still local. We just sold him a house over in Lewes, because we’re both Realtors on the side. When you look back at that, you’re like, āOh, my God, you were just a kid. And now you have a kid graduating college!ā It goes fast.āĀ
It seems that many of the staff have a soft spot for the Parrot, and for good reason. An important aspect of keeping their employees happy is supporting them. At first, it was trips to Disney World with some of the servers and renting out the local waterpark to give kids time to enjoy the summer. Then it became Christmas bonuses, which are not common in the food service industry.Ā
The Parrot helped raise more than $10,000 for one of their employees dealing with fallout from the war in Ukraine.Ā
āOne of our bartenders being from Ukraine, when all that went down, amazingly, how he was able to bring a lot of his family over,ā Roberts said. āAnd until they actually got grounded, he had places for them to stay all lined up.ā
āThe reason that he was able to get them over is because we did a fundraiser at the restaurant and our customers raised over $10,000 to help sponsor his family and one of our other employees’ families,ā Fuller said. āThey brought them all the way up through Mexico and into the country and now they’re here with citizenship cards and working for us. We got them houses and apartments too.ā
āWe don’t care what they are, whether they’re straight, Black, Chinese, Mexican. It’s like the Benetton of Rehoboth in here,ā Fuller added. āIt’s the United Nations. We support everybody and we’re not afraid to show our support for everybody.ā
In addition to reminiscing about some of the good things the restaurant has done for its employees, they both talked about notable guests of the Parrot.
āMy mind went right to the guys from Manhattan, who would always come down,ā Roberts said when asked if any guests have stuck out to him over the past 25 years. āThey just happened to find us. They had never been to Rehoboth before. They walked into the original Parrot and had every single year after that until two of them passed away. It just became like a yearly week, then it turned into two weeks, and then it turned into two times a year. And it was all just because they came to one bar, and had so much fun. They would sit there all day, all night, go home take a nap, and come back for dinner. And it was just their place.ā
They have faced some objections from those who were not as receptive to their tolerance of different people.
āWe get the same hate that everybody else does ā the same hate that the city got when they put the rainbow crossings in and the flag up,ā Fuller said. āI was just telling Troy about a conversation I had yesterday with a guy. The front of our business for Pride month has flags on it and says āHappy Pride.ā And he said, āI was going to come in here but I see you’re supporting the gay community with your rainbow flags.ā And I said āYes.ā And he goes, āWell, I don’t see why you don’t have flags for veterans.ā And I said,ā Well, as a veteran, I can tell you that we don’t serve to be recognized, we serve to protect and to give you guys your freedom. It’s not something that we want recognition for. But there is a flag, the American flag, that flies over the top of our business every day to represent the veterans of this country.āā
Despite the opinions of some who are less than welcoming of the LGBTQ community, the Purple Parrot will always be a safe space to celebrate, the two affirmed. And celebrate they will.Ā
The Parrot already hosted one party to celebrate the milestone of the bar early in the summer, but will throw an even bigger bash at the end of the season to commemorate the history and hard work that has gone into making the Parrot āfly.ā
āOn May fifth we had a big party,ā Fuller said. āWe’ll have another one at the end of the summer in September. We did one at the beginning and then we’re going to do a really big one at the end of the summer. The first celebration, that weekend, turned out to be a little rainy, and misty so it wasn’t as big as it could have been. It was packed inside but it wasn’t packed outside like it normally is. We usually do a full cookout barbecue, all that stuff and we’ll do that again at the end of the summer. We’ll have another one of those with DJs. I am not sure about a drag show, but we’ll probably have something because the girls are trying to get something together. We don’t want to spoil anything but there will be a surprise.ā
When asked to give their final thoughts on owning and running one of Rehobothās most successful businesses as gay men, the two made it clear that it has to be a safe and welcoming space for all for it to succeed.
āI think you have to be all-inclusive,ā Roberts said. āI don’t think in today’s world you can just really limit it to the gay community. You have to be gay-friendly, and accepting as well. And I think that helps because it gets non-gays in there and everybody just starts to get along. It becomes more accepted and then becomes the norm.ā
Fuller agreed but emphasized being true to oneās character in collaboration with being inclusive is the key to their success.
āBeing gay isn’t who we are, you know, it’s what we are,ā Fuller said. āYou can’t be afraid to be you. ā¦ If you’re going to open up a business, you want to make sure you lean on the community, because the community is going to be your biggest support. And that’s how we definitely lean on the gay community.ā
The Purple Parrot is located at 134 Rehoboth Ave. in Rehoboth Beach and is open Monday through Saturday from 11 a.m. to 1 a.m. and is open from 9 a.m. to 1 a.m. on Sundays. For more information, visit their website at ppgrill.com.
The 2024 New York City Pride Parade wound through the streets of Manhattan and past the historic Stonewall Inn on Sunday, June 30.
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