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Bundle of joy? Path to parenthood sets off lesbian alarm bells

My wife wants to be a mom and I don’t. If we were a straight couple and could have kids the old-fashioned way, we would probably already be parents.

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Michael,
 
My wife wants to be a mom and I don’t. If we were a straight couple and could have kids the old-fashioned way, we would probably already be parents.
 
But the work involved in two women having a baby ā€” finding a donor, insemination, legal issues ā€” has made me stop and think about what weā€™re actually planning to do. And I realize I donā€™t want to turn my world upside-down.
 
I love my life as it is, including the freedom to sleep late on weekends, travel whenever we want, eat out and spend money without guiltily contemplating a college fund.
 
Babies do not excite me. In fact, I find them annoying, especially when they cry or scream. Likewise toddlers with their constant chatter and repetitive questions.
 
When we were dating, we did agree to have kids. It just seemed to me like the thing you do. But the more I think about it, the less I want to.
 
I haven’t told Lisa about my reservations because her heart is set on becoming a mom. But she is thinking she’d like to get pregnant within the year, so I have to figure out what to do.
 
Am I being silly? I keep hearing from friends that parenthood is the best thing they ever did, even if they were apprehensive. I love being married to Lisa and want to spend my life with her, but this is a big problem. I wonder if I should just get over myself and go forward with this?

Michael replies:

Becoming a parent will make huge demands on your time, your patience, your sanity and your wallet. So it’s smart to be thoughtful before you make this life-long commitment.

Yes, many people who are apprehensive beforehand find that they love parenthood, despite the challenges. And many people who aren’t crazy about kids are grateful to discover that they profoundly love their own children.Ā But that doesn’t mean you would be one of those people. And you canā€™t know that in advance.

Youā€™re going to have to take a chance, one way or the other and thereā€™s no playing it safe ā€” the stakes are high in either direction.Ā  If you decide you absolutely donā€™t want to have a child, you may lose Lisa. And if you decide to take the plunge, you may find yourself deeply unhappy.

Hereā€™s the challenging aspect of your situation. The risks are obvious, but the rewards less certain. Thereā€™s no way to know how you will feel when you look into your childā€™s eyes. You have to decide if the possible joys of raising a child make it worthwhile for you to tolerate the downsides.

Because you arenā€™t inherently drawn to parenthood, making your decision might well be a no-brainer, if you werenā€™t married to someone who wanted kids. But because you are, itā€™s not so simple. You are facing the question we all face with our partners: we want two different things, but can only choose one.

Hereā€™s a principle you might consider: If something is important to your spouse, one option is to lean on her direction unless you have a strong reason not to. I like this principle because it leads couples to understand each other, to collaborate, to be generous whenever possible rather than keeping score and to discover how to be both two individuals and one couple.

If youā€™re interested in pursuing this line of thinking, ask Lisa to talk with you in depth about why she wants to become a mother. And you need to talk with her in depth about your ambivalence. The aim is not to try and convince each other, but simply to know each other well. Not incidentally, this is the definition of intimacy.

You may discover that it means more to Lisa to have kids than it does to you to remain childless and that the satisfaction you would get from seeing her fulfilled as a mother would help make parenting a gratifying choice for you as well, even if you would not have chosen it on your own.

Then again, you might decide that you arenā€™t willing to live a life with children, even if this means profoundly disappointing Lisa and possibly costing you your relationship.

Good luck. Decisions donā€™t get much tougher than this. Know that you are being handed an opportunity to clarify what is most important to you in your life.

Michael Radkowsky, Psy.D. is a licensed psychologist who works with gay couples and individuals in D.C. He can be found online atĀ personalgrowthzone.com. All identifying information has been changed for reasons of confidentiality. Have a question? Send it to [email protected].

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How much fighting is OK in a relationship?

I love my boyfriend but we canā€™t agree on anything

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Dear Michael,

How much arguing is OK in a relationship?

Sometimes I think Iā€™d like to spend the rest of my life with my boyfriend Adam but other times he drives me absolutely crazy.

We get into these fights where he just refuses to see it my way. He insists heā€™s right and digs in until I agree he has a point. He can never just agree with me or let it go.

The thing is, he doesnā€™t always have a point and if I wonā€™t concede that he does, he says I donā€™t respect his intelligence.

Our fights range from Madonnaā€™s talent (or lack thereof) to what is or isnā€™t OK to eat for breakfast, to whose job it is to take out the garbage, to what the best abs exercises are, to where we should go on vacation this summer, to whether recycling plastics accomplishes anything, to whether we should have sex in the morning or at night. Iā€™m sick of it!

On the other hand, Adam is smart, funny, and super-hot. 

Is it normal for couples to fight so much? I donā€™t know why itā€™s so hard for him to see it my way sometimes.

Michael replies:

Sounds to me like you guys are in an ongoing power-control struggle where one of you is continuously trying to influence the other (power move), and the other one is continuously refusing to be influenced (control move).

Thereā€™s nothing ā€œwrongā€ with making power and control moves. We all do them, all the time. Theyā€™re part of every relationship: Writing this reply, Iā€™m making a power move, in that Iā€™m wanting to influence the way you think about your relationship. If you disagree with me, youā€™re making a control move by not accepting my influence. No problem at all: You donā€™t have to let me (or anyone) influence you.

The problems arise when these moves become the ongoing operating system of your relationship. One of you keeps telling the other person how to behave or think, or what is ā€œcorrectā€; and the other wonā€™t agree, no matter what the issue. You each dig in. Warmth and collaboration go out the window. You canā€™t have a loving relationship when youā€™re mired in a power-control struggle.

The problem is not that you two see things differently. Thatā€™s an unavoidable part of life.  In any relationship, partners will at times have very different opinions, even about very important matters. The problem is that youā€™re choosing to argue about it, to try to prove that you are right and the other person is wrong. He wonā€™t see it your way and you wonā€™t see it his way. 

Notice that Iā€™m putting you in the same boat as Adam. Thatā€™s because youā€™re joining him in this dynamic.

One thing you two can do to get out of this dynamic is to stop arguing about things that are a matter of opinion. Itā€™s not possible to prove youā€™re right. Doing so just gets you dug in against each other.  

In general, itā€™s a waste of time to argue about why you are right and your partner is wrong. If you win the argument, your partner loses. And if one of you is the loser, you both lose because you wind up with a bitter relationship.

Instead, you could have fun enjoying the reality that each of you has very different opinions, even about very important things, and each of you has the job of figuring out how to live and generally be happy with someone who is different in some big ways from you. 

If you each start letting yourself be influenced by your partner, even if you donā€™t always agree on whatā€™s ā€œbestā€ or ā€œright,ā€ youā€™re going to open yourself up to all sorts of experiences, possibilities, and ways of looking at things that you hadnā€™t considered. Thatā€™s one of the great ways that relationships push us to grow.

If you think I have a point, Iā€™m glad. You may decide youā€™d like to make some changes in your relationship. Remember, though, that Adam is his own person. Perhaps youā€™ll be able to influence him to consider a new way of approaching your differences, perhaps not. 

That said, you have a lot of power over yourself. And if you decide you donā€™t want to keep getting stuck in power-control struggles, you can change this dynamic on your own simply by not participating. Not in a game-playing, ā€œIā€™m right and youā€™re wrongā€ way, but by taking the position, over and over, that you two are different and sometimes see things differently, and you arenā€™t going to fight about who is right and who is wrong, because that isnā€™t going to get you anywhere good.

(Michael Radkowsky, Psy.D. is a licensed psychologist who works with couples and individuals in D.C. He can be found online atĀ michaelradkowsky.com. All identifying information has been changed for reasons of confidentiality. Have a question? Send it toĀ [email protected].)

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After 16 years together, my wife suddenly wants children

ā€˜I donā€™t want to be stuck in restrictive heteronormativityā€™

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Dear Michael,

A few months ago you answered a letter from a guy who wanted a baby but his boyfriend didnā€™t. Iā€™m in the opposite situation. Carol and I have been together for 16 years (weā€™re married) and all of a sudden she wants to have a baby. This was never on the table until her dad died last year suddenly of a heart attack.  

Since then sheā€™s been a different person. She tells me that she wants to focus on something ā€œbiggerā€ than just enjoying life and also wants some sort of sense that ā€œlife will go on.ā€

To me, being queer has always meant that we get to fully live life in the present, for us.  We donā€™t have to focus on having kids and all that entails: fertility stuff, sleep deprivation, diapers, babysitters, PTA obligations, college tuition, etc. Let straight people deal with those headaches while I enjoy myself. 

I donā€™t want to be stuck in restrictive heteronormativity, giving my time and energy to a kid whoā€™s going to go from crying to whining to tantrums to rebellion to not talking to me. And then expect me to pay their bills after theyā€™re 18.  

And why crowd the planet even more? In my opinion, having a baby on this planet is selfish sentimentality.

Carol and I always saw 100 percent eye-to-eye on this issue but now sheā€™s gone over to the other side. I have shared all of the above to shake some sense into her but havenā€™t gotten anywhere. This was not our agreement at all.

I know you canā€™t change someone else, but doesnā€™t she owe our relationship a commitment to the life we already agreed on? Iā€™ve suggested grief counseling but she says no.

Michael replies:

No one owes their partner a commitment to not change. Itā€™s a guarantee that we all change over time. Relationships challenge us to stay with someone as we both evolve in big and sometimes unexpected ways over the years. There’s no way around this challenge if you want to stay happily married. 

Itā€™s also true that you donā€™t have to keep living with someone who changes in ways you donā€™t want to accommodate. So, if Carol is certain that she wants to be a mom and if you are certain that you donā€™t, you can leave.

It makes sense that youā€™re sad and angry (putting it mildly) when your wife suddenly wants to completely upend your life. That said, youā€™re not going to improve your marriage by criticizing Carol or insulting her wish to parent. And if you pressure her to give up a deeply held wish, she will likely resent you.

Instead of these tactics, how about being curious regarding her desire to parent? What ā€œbiggerā€ meaning is she hoping to get from life? How does she think her fatherā€™s untimely death affected her, not just on this issue but possibly in other ways as well?

Thereā€™s great value in being curious about our partnersā€™ differences rather than contemptuous or critical. Thatā€™s a path toward greater intimacy, in that we get to deeply understand the person we are spending our life with. While you may not stay with Carol, you still might want to have a close and caring relationship with the woman youā€™ve spent 16 years with. Understanding her better might also help you make some peace with her desire to parent.

I also want to encourage you to consider that there are many ways to be gay, lesbian, queer ā€” to be just about anything. You could say itā€™s ā€œheteronormativeā€ to want to parent; but you could also view it as a common human (and non-human) desire that is unrelated to sexual orientation. Carol has different ideas for how she wants to live. This doesnā€™t mean that she is foolish.

Iā€™m curious about why you have such an unrelentingly negative view about parenting and kids. Is it possible that you’ve had some tough experiences in your life that have shaped this view? 

Iā€™m not pushing you to change your mind, but you might consider talking with some parents to get some sense of what parenting, and children, are actually like. 

You might open up your thinking, and your heart. You might decide you are willing to lean in Carolā€™s direction, or you might not. In any case, I’m hopeful that you would get a more balanced picture of what parenting and childhood can be. 

Michael Radkowsky, Psy.D. is a licensed psychologist who works with couples and individuals in D.C. He can be found online atĀ michaelradkowsky.com. All identifying information has been changed for reasons of confidentiality. Have a question? Send it toĀ [email protected].

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Should I divorce my husband for the hot new guy in our building?

Debating whether to leave or stay after the sex goes cold

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Dear Michael,

Iā€™ve been with my husband for 10 years and the sex is pretty much gone. It stopped being exciting a long time ago and pretty much the only time we ever do it is with the occasional third.

A really hot guy moved into our building about a year ago. We would see each other sometimes in the elevator or at our buildingā€™s gym and we started talking and really hit it off. Mark is 15 years younger than I but we seem to have a lot in common. We started hooking up and the sex is amazing.

I havenā€™t told my husband because itā€™s breaking our rule about no repeats. I have to say that the secrecy is hot. Itā€™s kind of a thrill to take the elevator upstairs when I say Iā€™m going on an errand. But itā€™s more than that. I have a connection with Mark that is far more amazing than what I have ever felt with my husband. Not just the sex. We just enjoy being together, talking about anything and everything.

My husband went to visit his family last weekend and I spent the whole time with Mark. Since then I canā€™t stop thinking that I want to leave my husband and be with Mark.

Part of me thinks this is a crazy mid-life crisis. I mean, this kidā€™s in a totally different place in life. But we have mind-blowing sex and a fantastic connection. Iā€™d like your thoughts on how to proceed.

Michael replies: 

Youā€™ve got a lot to consider.

First: Sex with a long-term partner changes over time. It tends to be less about erotic heat and more about the connection with a person whom you love. In other words, itā€™s being with the person youā€™re with that makes the sex meaningful and even great. Having a good sexual relationship with a long-term partner comes far more from a heart connection than from a crotch attachment.  

Second: You seem ready to throw your relationship under the bus pretty quickly, without addressing other problems in the relationship besides sex. When you are sneaking around, lying, and rule-breaking , I donā€™t see how you can look your husband in the eye; and if you canā€™t look him in the eye, you certainly canā€™t have even a half-way decent relationship.

Yet another point to consider: Affairs pretty much always seem more exciting than marriage. The partner is new, which almost automatically makes the sex hotter; the secrecy is a thrill; and you donā€™t have to deal with paying the rent, house chores, and all the petty annoyances of living up-close with someone day-in, day-out.  

You are bringing lots of energy to your affair, and everything about it is exciting. You are bringing no energy ā€” at least no positive energy ā€” to your marriage. You get what you put into a relationship.

Divorce is not something that should be entered into lightly. Be aware that if you leave your husband for Mark, you will no doubt find over time that the sex becomes less exciting and that the connection is not always fantastic. No surprise, 75 percent of marriages that begin with affair partners end in divorce. While I donā€™t think statistics predict what will happen to any particular couple, believing that you will have a significantly better relationship with your affair partner than you did with your husband sets you up for likely disappointment.

Many gay men focus on “hot sex” as the big draw, pursuing a lot of sex with a lot of men, and/or pursuing an ongoing series of relationships that last until the sex cools. If thatā€™s what you want, thatā€™s fine. But itā€™s a different path from pursuing a close and loving long-term relationship, which involves knowing someone well and having him know you well; collaborating on getting through the hard stuff life throws at us; finding ways to make peace with disappointment; and consistently striving to be someone worth being married to. 

How to proceed? While you are the only person who should make that decision, I would suggest that whatever your choice, keep in mind that marriage can be more than what youā€™ve made of it, so far.

Michael Radkowsky, Psy.D. is a licensed psychologist who works with couples and individuals in D.C. He can be found online atĀ michaelradkowsky.com. All identifying information has been changed for reasons of confidentiality. Have a question? Send it toĀ [email protected].

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